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Friday, 14 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 14 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
ONE NATION, ONE CIVIL SERVICE- Very good revolutionary idea by PM Modi. This will eliminate monopoly and master-slave treatment by British slavery era service IAS on other Class1 central services in higher bureaucracy. If WIC recalls, PM had directed in 2015 to DOPT and all Central Class-1 cadre controlling ministries to ensure that all organised group A services (OGAS) officers of upto 1995 batch should be empanelled as Joint Secretary by 31.12.2015. But the generalist IAS lobby, no longer service/sewa, posted in DOPT and Ministries dared to ensure that PMs directives were not implement for the benefit of OGAS officers comprising of SPECIALISTS Doctors, Engineers, Law etc. Even after 5 years PMs orders have not been implemented. While IAS of 2002 batch has become JS, OGAS officers of 1990 batch have to report to 12 years junior IAS. British slavery is continuing even now. Hence, IAS and all OGAS services should be merged in ONE NATION, ONE CIVIL SERVICE, maintaining batch parity, WITHOUT giving 2 years edge/benefit to IAS. 2. There should not be a permanent civil service for Group A level ( GP. Rs.5400 and above). Instead, it should be CONTRACTUAL service of SPECIALISTS for a period of 3 years intitially. Hire and fire system will ensure higher efficiency and performance, unlike the present system where IAS officers after enjoying British like royalty in states come with the same mindset in Govt of India. As a result, centra govt has not progressed much in past 70 years.3. Although British introduced ICS for India, but there is no counterpart of ICS turned IAS, such as British Civil Service in Britsin now. Why are we carrying with legacy of British slavery now. Rajamannar Commission proposed ABOLITION of IAS in 1971. Please bring above to the notice of our pro-active and innovative Honble PM.
Bharat
You don’t take up real issues of bureaucrats
You don’t seem to be inclined to take up real issues of bureaucrats and I don't know the reasons. In CBDT and CBIC the promotions for officers are being deferred by ACC indefinitely though no charge sheet is spending, nor the officers is under suspension, nor any criminal case pending, in blatant violation of rules framed by DoPT for promotion of officers and also Supreme Court's decisions on this matter. Please take up this matter on your website because individual officers are scared of repercussions to take up this issue, which is blatantly illegal.
Kumar
Thursday, 13 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 13 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
Every service requires specialisation. And this theory is not possible.
A K Kar
Wednesday, 12 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 12 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
Of course, one nation and one civil service theory will work.
A S Chauhan
Corrupt officers deputed to NHAI must face legal action instead of repatriation
If any deputed employee does corruption. He can be repatriated rather thank taking strict against them or dismiss from service as they are not permanent employee of NHAI so chance of their corruption is highest. Secondly, it involves huge amount transaction so dependence on deputation employee should be avoided as they would work in nexus with state department in which they belong. Thirdly, there is no such finance cadre in any Government organization. So their service need totally in situ. They don't find any interest in working for organization, upliftment as their services are attached with parent organization. Lastly, if deputation is the best mode then why this official working on deputation and cry for absorption in regular service of NHAI, its hypocrisy on their part.
Priyanka Agrawal
Tuesday, 11 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 11 Feb 2020

DEBATE(1)
One nation and one civil service' theory will spread more confusion in the country. Focus should be on more important issues of the country. This decision will cause a detrimental effect.
Ravindra
Monday, 10 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 10 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
Every type of work needs proper study of the subject and through knowledge.And person of that service can do justice to only that work.If he is seconded for another type of work he may not understand ABC of that work.
Satish Agrawal IPS (Retd)
DEBATE (1)
One national one service is no where possible
Deepa Agrawal
Saturday, 8 February 2020

One Nation and one Civil Service

Why not other service is like one nation one cadre ?
Aryan
It's nice
C Shrimali
Good idea
Mantosh Chander
Time For Quantum Jump
It is high time India enhances its vision and mission to become 5 tr economy. It calls for a radical approach to matters financial and make the budget a useful instrument. Our economy is over-dependent on farming. We rightly call the farmer our “anna daataa”. The anna or food that the farmer produces needs a market to sell. Money is produced by the “ dhan daataa” or wealth creator. Wealth is produced by the skilled and highly skilled, talented, industrious, entrepreneurial, innovative, inventor, champion manufacturers and suppliers, described as industry, business and market. It costs too much to produce such highly skilled persons in different fields. A doctor, IIT engineer, IIM or Business School MBA and other professional costs no less than a Crore to get educated. With so much investment and hard work one can’t start working with 30,000 rupees per month salary as it would be a terrible wastage of precious human & capital resources. S/he gets a job with starting salary of 3 lakh rupees a month or 36 lakhs annually. S/he comes under 30% tax slab. Is it the correct tax perspective for thinkers of India 5 tr economy? To shed the tag of a poor country, we need to think differently, and that too now. Either the state finances their education or allow tax moratorium for 5 years so that they can repay their loans and start on a fairly reasonable standard of living. There is no tax on farm income presently and industry enjoys tax holiday for 5 or 7 years. This must be extended to the talent pool which alone will deliver growth for turning India into a 5 tr or 10 tr economy. They can deliver a 5 tr growth if motivated to work for India. The current tax regime will drive them to foreign countries as has been the case so far. The country stands to suffer talent erosion. To become a 5 tr economy we need to think and act genuinely big, irrespective of which party rules India. Reforming the financial sector radically right now is a sine qua non. Without urgent reforms in national attitude towards wealth and wealth creators, we will only be share-cropping poverty forever, wasting precious resources in competitive poverty harvesting promising free electricity or water or thali meals funded by high taxes on plate meals! People hold protests to “Save Constitution” but have no qualms of conscience to taint the same constitution by inserting hollow words like secular & socialist, ignoring the contents of Part III & IV which are replete with elaborate tenets of real socialist and secular constitution under Fundamental Rights and Directive Principles for State Policy. We deliberately choose to go astray which only helps some smart fellows who get urban/rural land allotted at ludicrously nominal price for SECULAR HOUSE/ SOCIALIST GROUP HOUSING etc. and also Grants, for which nobody bothers to submit Utilisation certificate. Why should the country proceed to produce Crorepatis of tax evaders & non-tax payers and make paupers of honest tax payers? Just look at the assets in crores declared by contesting candidates in assembly and parliament elections, and their source of income: social work, political work, charity, janseva etc.!
M L Gupta
Friday, 7 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 7 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
‘One nation and one civil service’ plan is bad for a large, heterogeneous, varied country. We should go for more and more specialization.
Anup Kumar
Your content "Entire Civilised World is against CAA"; reminds me of Gandhiji's reaction to Western Civilisation "It's interesting idea! no reality!
RCAnalyst
RBI Governor be awarded
It is interesting to see a historian ( RBI Governor Shaktikanta Das is BA, MA History) guiding India's monetary and fiscal policies .
Vinay
Thursday, 6 February 2020

One nation –one service-Good idea

DEBATE(1)
Mantosh Chander
DEBATE (2)
This is not possible in this country.
R K Sareen
Close all channels between 11 pm to 6 am
If all the channels are closed between 11 pm to 6 am, there will not be any difficulty to the economy or public. Instead, it will help preserve the valuable resources
Phani Kumar
No telecast after midnight
No telecast should be allowed after 12.00 am (after midnight) except for some special events.
Sushanto Banerjee
DCM in Belgium embassy posted since October
The DCM in Belgium embassy has been posted and has joined since October. Debasish Prusty IAS, 2000 batch, Rajasthan cadre.
Ipsita
Wednesday, 5 February 2020

Whispers Forum — 5 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1)
It's nice suggestion.
C Shrimali
Indians are not as well informed as Americans
You said that if Narendra Modi can win despite after allegedly speaking a ‘thousand lies’, US President Donald Trump too will win because he is known to have spoken One Thousand and Five hundred lies is not possible as Indians are not as well informed as Americans.
Venkat Raja
Perfect choice for SEBI Chief
Atanu is perfect choice for the post of SEBI Chief, I know him since last 34 years he is very bold, intelligent and always willing to shoulder additional responsibilities. A great and visionary administrator. I wish him great success as always.
D P S Negi
No need to appoint officers on deputation
Since there are sufficient regular officers, so no need to appoint officers from deputation. Govt should rely on regular officers of Nhai to achieve the target.
Kumar
Tuesday, 4 February 2020

Debate: One Nation and One Civil Service — 4 Feb 2020

DEBATE (1) One Nation and One Civil Service
Why not other service is like one nation one cadre.
Aryan
Permanent cadre in NHAI will not be fruitful
NHAI has deputation policy mainly because of high value transactions. If a permanent cadre is created, it may lead to nepotism & corruption. The employee on deputation will perform better because he can be repatriated at any point of time. As I worked in NHAI on deputation basis NHAI is offering a chance to work with all state PWD officials and thereby increasing the horizon of thinking.
Gapathanesan Kunchitham
Monday, 3 February 2020

One Nation, One Civil Service theory

DEBATE(1)
If it happens it will be the great step towards preventing corruption in all state PSC exams and poor talented candidates will benefit.
Sachin Mane
Whispers must launch a portal for people to report corruption with proof
Whispers India is also requested to launch a portal, wherein public should be able to uplodad photos and copies of documents substantiating the cases of corruption and misuse of office perks & facilities by Ministers and Bureaucrats. A lot of tax payer's money is going down the drain on account of the aforesaid misdeeds. Whispers India will be doing yeomen service to the nation.
BBS
Saturday, 1 February 2020

Hours Professors Teach ?

Do the university professors teach for less than 40 hours in a year on an average? Can they be expected to teach for 200 hours in a year @ 4 hours a week? To get a degree a student has to read 1000s of pages of material of scholarly literature. To understand and absorb all that knowledge s/he must read @50 pages or more a day. The ideas are difficult to appreciate and language terse which requires help of teachers. About 10 to 12 hours are needed for commuting to university, daily chores, eating and sleep. Work out the hours left to pursue learning in a year and the sum is likely to leave hardly any time to complete the syllabus. Can the graduate students or PG students afford the luxury of wasteful non-academic activities like silly protests and violence on the campus? Every moment is precious for a learner at the UG/PG level. It is not mere subject study to obtain a degree but education, acquisition of skills and inter-personal relationships also for an all-round development of personality. Are the professors helping these students acquire all these? Unfortunately, if the teachers lack skills they can’t transfer them to their students. For teachers to be useful, hard work alone can transform them in to great mentors. Apparently teachers are not sensitive to these needs of their students and waste the time of students by indulging in politics around ideologies and doctrines which should not take more than an hour of a lecture by the subject expert teacher. Teachers must do their duty sincerely and justice to students and their own conscience! It is no matter of pride for a university Professor not to take a single class in two years (speaking as a student)! Students must be employable and job ready before they pass out. But that is possible only if teachers are likely oriented. Time for interchange of academic practices in universities and IITs and IIMs etc. How can half of India have the privilege of excellent teachers and the remaining half the curse of poor teachers?
M L Gupta